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Dec 30, 2012 2:00pm PST
" for cliff because i think democrats for a while have held the upper hand on these fiscal cliff negotiations because what is it all mean? this is about taxes for democrats, and the bush tax cuts expire at the end of this year, and, look, they are saying republicans are going to come back and say we don't want taxes to go up for those, you know, making less than $250,000 a year or more, so they will come back at the beginning of the year and propose something that can get done. you heard chuck schumer who happens to be reid's top lieutenant say the same thing on "meet the press" last week, so i think that that's what democrats see as their leverage and their fallback. now, republicans see the debt ceiling as their leverage which is a tricky game. >> we're hearing that vice president joe biden has been linked to the negotiations. what do you think his role is in all of this, and why do you think he's being called in now? >> well, mitch mcconnell, a top republican aide told me, picked up the phone and called joe biden because they felt like these talks were going nowhere, that they hadn't heard back from harry reid and decided that they wanted to get together with biden to say, you know, to get things straight with what the white house wanted and then
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 2:00am PST
another problem, another stalemate in fiscal cliff negotiations. >> our republican colleagues by refusing to go along with revenues are risking the fiscal cliff. >> i think we're going to fall out of the fiscal tree. >> reporter: confidence at a minimum. lawmakers return from their holiday recess on thursday and when they do, they will have their work cut out for them. i'm danielle leigh. veronica. back to you. >> thank you so much. >>> the pentagon says the commanding officer of s.e.a.l. team 4 has died. joe w. price died saturday of what u.s. military officials are calling a non-combat related injury. they tell nbc news his death death is being investigated as a possible suicide. s.e.a.l. team 4 was part of a mission to train local afghan police to combat the taliban. >>> in the meantime, what's being called a possible insider attack, a civilian american advisor was killed by a woman wearing an afghan uniform. at least 53 international troops have been killed by afghan soldiers or police this year. >>> back here at home now, it is crunch time for holiday shoppers. many retailer
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 8:00pm PST
will go over the fiscal cliff in a little more than five days and house republicans are doing nothing more than posturing. president obama is flying back to washington tonight from his christmas vacation in hawaii to make one last attempt to get a deal before midnight new year's eve. the senate is returning and will be in session tomorrow for the same purpose. senate majority leader harry reid is trying to determine what kind of bill he can get through the senate with limited republican support. meanwhile, governor neil abercrombie of hawaii tonight announced that lieutenant governor brian schatz is as fit to feel the seat of the passed senator daniel inouye. he will leave hawaii for washington tonight and is expected to be sworn in sometime tomorrow afternoon. the democrats are wasting no time in the event harry reid needs the vote to avert the fiscal cliff. but the house? a different story. speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided to do nothing. there are no immediate plans to return to washington. even as that decis
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 12:00am PST
reid needs the vote to avert the fiscal cliff. but the house? a different story. speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided to do nothing. there are no immediate plans to return to washington. even as that decision is made, how members have 48 hours to get there. house republican leadership released a statement today reading in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate if the senate will not approve and send them to the president to be signed into law in their current form. they must be amended and returned to the house. the house will take this action on whatever the senate can pass, but the senate must first act. the house has passed bills that would never pass the senate. speaker boehner's position is a joke. senate majority leader harry reid responded, house republicans pushed middle class families closer to the blip by wasting an entire week with their incompetent plan b stunt no further legislation can move through the senate until republicans drop their knee jerk obstru
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 10:00am PST
. jonathan capehart, i want to go to you. as we approach the fiscal cliff, approach the deadline, the president is still polls better than house republicans in terms of how they dealt with the crisis, better -- if this doesn't end up happening, who gets the lion's share blame, do you think, heading into the next year? will the president still be able to maintain his popularity? >> the president may take a little bit after hit on his popularity as everyone involved in process will p.m. but as you said, the president is sitting on very good job approval ratings compared to congress as a whole and specifically republicans. i think they will get the lion's share of the blame. and to touch on something kelly mentioned in her report about how one of the ideas being discussed is taking the boehner bill of extending all of the bush tax cuts, sending it to the senate and having them amend it, i don't see how you get -- how that would be welcomed among senate democrats because, you know, were would -- why would they vote for that? i think we should look as the -- you know, the cliff notes michael o'brien wrote on nbc news to see where congressional le
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 7:00am PST
, there is still time for us to hammer out a deand prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff. what will be talked about today is what do the outlines and parameters of a possible deal look like that can be agreed to by a majority of democrats and republicans. really i think the key thing here is, will john boehner, instead of after having wasted all of last week on plan b, which, you know, he took as a go it alone strategy, will he be willing to get the number of republicans he can get to vote for a deal, combined with the number of democrats willing to vote for one and make a majority of the house of representatives in position to vote on the final deal. not a majority -- there are only reps in the house of representatives -- we have 435 house members, and the founding fathers when they wrote the constitution, intended for legislation to pass with the majority of the whole house. this deal needs to have democratic and republican sport. >> if you look forward to a possible final smaller deal as we were just talking about here, how much of this is john boehner's conservative members causing this difficulty for him? i have a big chunk, really a plurality is made of these extremists who are unwilling to consider they are essentially control john boe
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 8:00am PST
kick the can down the road, jeff, we'll do some small deal and create another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> just let the people's housework its will. instead of handing over the keys to the most extreme elements in the house republican caucus. >> a lot of people donnell realize he is blocking a vote in the house. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> i am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff. >> i want to bring you in and say good morning to sander levin. sir, it's good to have you with me. what is your expectations or thoughts about hear that the president and vice president joe biden are calling the four congressional leaders behind closed closed doors today. >> i am hopeful. i wouldn't say i'm optimistic, but i think confidence has gone down. i think the key is whether the speaker will be the speaker of the entire house and let the matters come before us where there could be a majority of democrats and perhaps a majority of republicans, but let es speak our will and act on our will. that's really one of the keys. i think if the senate bill or what was in it were brought before the house, keeping the middle-class tax cuts, but not those for the uppe
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 1:00pm PST
just shovel it out to us. >> washington still in deadlock. >> we're falling over that fiscal cliff. >> republicans simply can't utter the word yes. >> the president is, i believe, slowing down the process. >> they have no strategy. they don't know what they want. >> kim kardashian is pregnant. >> a lot of democrats get mad at me. >> no deal is better than a bad deal. >> something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our american economy is our american congress. >> hats off to the president. >> as of this point is looks like i'm going to be spending new year's here in d.c. i can come to your house? is that what you're saying? >> happy new year! >>> grab your party hats, chill the bubbly. just eight hours to go. yes, we are all waiting to cue the confetti with hopes for a last-minute deal to avert the fiscal cliff. with sweeping tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect at midnight, frantic negotiations are ongoing at this hour with the president teasing the prospect of a deal on at least part of the cliff just hours ago. >> it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hi
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 6:00pm PST
haven't climbed back up the fiscal cliff and the republicans begin playing games with the debt ceiling, that would be fiscal suicide. we breakthrough the debt ceiling, we're talking depression. not a quick recession. it would be the single stupidest and most damaging act of sabotage in american history. and it cannot be allowed to happen. and here, hopefully to tell me why it will not happen is alice, who probably knows more about the budget and the budget deals than probably anybody else alive. she's appointed to president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform. and she's currently a senior fellow at the brookings instituti institution. thank you for being here tonight. >> happy to be here. >> you know much more about this than i do. you heard the intro, is there anything you want to add or correct anyway you see the fiscal cliff that you think people should know about? >> i thought your five points were good ones, especially the one about austerity, what we're talking about now is doing something really stupid as you said, and letting the wrong polici
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 10:00am PST
senior republican sources saying that the tax portion of a deal on the fiscal cliff has been agreed to with the sequester. essentially the automatic cuts. the date with those going into effect still being the sticking point. republicans wanting shorter, possibly three months. democrats hoping for longer. maybe two years. how much does that factor into your calculation of whether you vote for this bill or not? when those automatic cuts design to sort of be the sort of thing hanging over the congress's head. how important is that to you when we see what the senate and if the senate but what the senate produces? >> sure. those cuts are very important. i mean, when you talk about 8% discretionary spending cuts, that's major, and it hits our constituents pretty hard. if they're talking about a temporary halting of the sequester, perhaps that maybe a good thing. of course, like to see it longer than three months. i'm just hearing this. mying 20 give taxpayers a break. people want us to get this thing done. if we have to delay to continue spending. that, of course, is all connected with job creation. certainly i would love to see just sequester held off for a yoer or two, but i think we have to, again -- we have to look at the tota
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 9:00am PST
sidelines as obamas, republicans in congress tackle fiscal cliff. the most visible former elected official in the tea party and, of course, chairman of freedom works tried to oust several freedom works officials this fall. in fact, according to the post, army thieves control momentarily of the group. and he brought a gun carrying aide to remove rivals within the organization. but within a week, army was out. freedom works arranged an $8 million pay page for him. $8 million. that is more than the organization's entire annual budget in some years. over in the house, several tea party allies were recently stripped of their committee assignments by speaker boehner. so there are some problems there at the top. an influential conservative is lashing out. >> the tea party is going of to look at itself. it's been so helpful to the republican party in the past. it saved i by not going third party in 2010, helping the republicans sweep the house. but the tea party style of rage is not one that wins over convertes and makes people lean toward them and say, i want to listen to you. >> so ther
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 11:00am PST
. your reaction to the statement there that the president wants the country to go over the fiscal cliff, they think it's for better democratic leverage. >> that's nonsense. the president made extraordinary concessions to the republicans to try to go over -- to try to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. he promoezed that we don't tax -- no tax increase until $400,000, instead of $250,000. he proposed -- he said he would be willing to go with the republican demands for entitlement cuts cutting colas on social security which i think is obnoxious and will not vote for under any circumstances. he made a lot of concessions, too many. the republicans showed, though, when they voted against cutting taxes for 99.8% of americans, because they wouldn't allow taxes to go up for people above $1 million, they showed that it's very difficult to do business this w them. >> you said the president made too many concessions. >> i think so. >> were you more a fan of the $250,000 and less than that or -- >> i'm more of a fan of the $250,000 but mainly, mainly i would not vote for a nickel in -- under any circumstances for a nickel in cuts to social security benefits. >> so when we look at that and there are those on the right that say i won'
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 6:00am PST
today, since it's january 1st, so we've gone over the so-called fiscal cliff. if you vote for this bill, it's a vote to lower taxes, not raise taxes. it's optics, it's semantics, but it's very important for house republicans. >> it's ridiculous is what it is. >> and we know that a lot of democrats will support this final package. so, nancy pelosi will bring her votes. >> although welch told me he didn't know whether or not he would support it. >> nancy pelosi has signed off on it. it's up to john boehner to deliver his votes and can he do it without amending it, we do not know at this time. >> all right, luke. thank you very much. >> take care. >> we'll see you soon, i'm sure. >> indeed. >>> well, there's already been grumbling about this senate legislation from both sides of the aisle, but texas republican senator kay bailey hutchison says that is the essence of compromise. >> i don't love it, but i think it is a very good job of negotiating where there are some wins and some losses, and it's about even. >> with me now, the agreeos political editor parry bacon and lynn sweet, washington bureau chief for "the chicago sun ti s times." lynn, we kept rerunning this video of you yesterday with speaker boehner walking
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 1:00am PST
hope of going over the fiscal cliff must start in the senate. not one democrat would support the idea that we could protect 99% of americans from a tax increase. boehner's plan b i thought made as soon as. to my republican kcolleagues, te the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a good day. i lime simpson-bowles. the president is going to get tax rate hikes. to my republican colleagues, if we can protect 99% of the public from a tax hike that, is not a tax increase in my book. chuck, maybe you and me and some other people in the senate can find a way to find this on the short term but on the long term there's not going to be a deal any time soon. >> you think we're going to go over the cliff? >> i think we're going to fall out of the fiscal tree. the big chance at the big deal is at the debt ceiling. that's when we'll have leverage to turn the country around, prevent from becoming greece and save social security and medicare. to anybody listening, i will raise the debt ceiling orchl if we save medicare and social security from insolvency and prevent this country from becoming greece. no more borrowing until we know why we're in debt to begin with. >> let me say this. i don't think that usi
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 2:00pm PST
looking for a $400,000 threshold, but as the clock ticks on this fiscal cliff, i think a lot of republicans will move towards that $250,000 number. 24e may not like the president's deal or his approach, but both sides want to extend middle class tax rates. that's the key. both parties agree they want to extend to a certain threshold middle class tax rates. it's all about where that ball ends pup. >> so you think republicans will go for $250,000. >> i don't think the republican leadership will agree on $250,000, but you will see as many republicans move towards $250,000, maybe a scattering in the senate, a scattering in the house, because at the end of the day they want to extend as many rates as possible. >> but, richard, the real question here, they don't have to agree to $250,000 but they have to let a vote happen on $250,000. in of that case mitch mcconnell would have to agree not owe filibuster and speaker boehner would have to allow the bill to come to the floor. it's 9 process disagreements. >> i may not be the only person who is getting confused on the optimist/pessimist signals. let's li
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 2:30am PST
was a rare bipartisan vote, 89-8. two hours after america went off the fiscal cliff, vice president biden came to the capitol to sell the fix he worked out with gop leader mitch mcconnell who spoke for senate republicans. >> we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone. but we all knew if we did nothing, they'd be going up on everyone. >> reporter: the senate voted to reverse today's tax hikes on 98% of americans. but to keep the higher rate on families making over $450,000. president obama took credit for breaking 20 years of gop opposition to tax hikes. >> keep in mind that just last month, republicans in congress said they would never agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans. >> reporter: five senate republicans voted no. >> middle class families will wake up today to the assurance their taxes won't go up $2,200 each. >> reporter: not so fast. house speaker john boehner and his gop lawmakers might not go along. boehner sent house members home to celebrate the new year without a vote to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> listen, this is disgusting. and everybody involved should be embarrassed. >> reporter: the economy could still take a hit. while the house takes up maybe later today whether to fo
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 7:00am PST
while the senate was passing a deal to avoid the worst of the fiscal cliff hangover. the bill passed by a wide margin 89-8 setting up a showdown in the house which will convene at high noon on this new year's day. republican mitch mcconnell said the process wasn't pretty but got the job done. >> each of us could spend the rest of the week stusing what a perfect solution would have looked like but the end result would have been the largest tax increase in american history. it took an imperfect solution to prevent our constituents from a very real financial pain. in my view, it was worth the effort. >> nbc's luke russert is live on capitol hill. good morning. happy new year to you. >> good morning, mara. good to see you in the chair. >> thank you very much, sir. so the house republican conference meets at 1:00. is that speaker boehner's best chance to sell this to republicans? >> reporter: it is. this is by no means a done deal. it did get 9 votes in the senate and one would think such a bipartisan vote in that body would correlate over to the house of representatives but it isn't necessarily the cases specially with the 112th congress. there is some consternation among conservatives for this bill for a few reaso
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 9:00am PST
are looking past the fiscal cliff entirely and getting ready for the next fight. senator bob corker spoke moments ago on capitol hill. >> we immediate to do something in the 4 1/2 to $5 trillion range. so we can begin this year with this and in the rear view mirror and our economy really has the opportunity to take off. i think it is apparent that on these -- december 29 without anything that's bold in place, that's probably not going to happen. so, unfortunately, for america, the next line in the sand will be the debt ceiling. secretary geithner sent up a letter. it is probably around mid march action has to be taken. >> we are going to keep an eye on that. he will keep talking. we will bring you the highlights. first, though, this is going to be pretty hot. we have singer/songwriter, a man you are going to want to hear from whose biography could serve as a life lesson in and of itself. john forte joins us next on "now." >>> john forte grew up in brooklyn and made it to exeter academy on a violin scholarship and was a bram any nominated producer. he got a dream assignment for any b
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
is cutting short his christmas break with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal. the gop leadership has not yet called their members back
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 4:00pm PST
." there she is on today's front page leaping off an actual cliff. "off the fiscal cliff, this fall is really going to hurt." that's what they said. >>> up next, it used to be a favorite republican pastime, going after hillary clinton. it hasn't happened for a while, of course, but what if she does run for president? how could they resist doing it again? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. check out my new treadmill app. pretty sweet, huh? cute. but don't you have any apps on your phone that can make your life easier? who do you think i am, quicken loans? at quicken loans, we'll provide you with myql mobile. this amazingly useful app allows you to take pictures of your mortgage documents using an iphone or android smart phone... so you can easily send them to us. one more way quicken loans is engineered to amaze. ooh, la-la! >>> i'm craig melvin. we have some breaking news at this hour. nbc news laz learned president obama will host a meeting tomorrow afternoon with congressional leadership from both sides of the aisle. house this really a concussion -- >> you mean john bolton. >> i feel if she ends up testifying next month maybe that's the pivot point. if not then, it's
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 11:00pm PST
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MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 1:00pm PST
in fact go over the fiscal cliff, there will be plenty of blame to go around, the poles show that most of the blame will be on republicans. however president obama is the commander in chief, so he will undoubtedly get some of the blame as well. there's a lot of pressure for them to get something done over the next two and a half days. we have already seen the markets impacted, consumer confidence has been down and when you talk to folks, craig, they say, they are frustrated and they are worried about what this will mean for their paychecks. >> kristin welker, thank you. >>> negotiations on the hill ultimately coming down to a few key individuals and their staffers. for more on that, i want to bring in the senior political editor, mark murray. thank you for sticking around. >> thanks for having me. >> over the past month, president obama has been spending a lion's share of his time negotiating with speaker boehner, that did not work. what can you tell us about the key individuals involved in the process now, president obama, senator majority leader harry reed and mitch mcconnell. what is the tone? >> it's all about the senate righ
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 4:00am PST
over the fiscal cliff because, again, i don't think the republican party is serious about playing an important role in governing this country. >> now, i don't necessarily disagree with you, but let me push back a little bit, and then i'll let dan jump in. >> sure. >> look, the argument i'm hearing -- and i don't know what cuts the president is offering to the republicans -- but why doesn't he offer more? why doesn't he give them -- i mean, anything more that he offers would be better than going over the fiscal cliff. why can't we get to something? why can't he give enough significant cuts that would make some of these republicans in districts that will really have problems when they go back to win re-election, if they raise taxes, give them some sort of incentive. give them some serious cuts. >> let's break apart your premise because i just -- i do not think -- i think there is a significant portion of the republican party that simply will never see any increases in revenue as necessary to run this government. i mean, you know, the president -- the one thing that we all agreed on in
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 1:00am PST
to happen now. if we get a small deal before we go over the fiscal cliff, either because harry reid and mitch mcconnell come to a deal in the senate, or because democrats jam the republicans in congress, it's mostly going to be about extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class, which will mean letting them expire for the rich. that will net somewhere around $600 billion in new tax revenue. the white house will pocket that. they will have got in three quarters of what they wanted last year, before even the negotiations had really kicked off. then we're going to go over the cliff and the pressure will mount quickly to strike another deal. republicans are still going to want entitlement cuts sop the white house will insist that the next deal include a dollar in tax increases for every dollar in spending cuts. so in that next deal, image republicans want $800 billion in spending cuts, a number of they've kicked around before. democrats will say they need that much in taxes, too. and because they've already raised rates, they got those middle class tax cuts extended, and the rich ones expired, they'll be open to do hitting through tax reform, which will be easier for republi
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 12:00pm PST
is conceivable by the end of the day. >> you wrote an article titled "the fiscal cliff is just an early battle in a war that democrats are going to win" where do you think republicans went wrong? >> well, you know, the problem for republicans i think isn't so much a tactical decision they made but isn't acknowledging where public opinion is. the reason democrats have the upperhand isn't just because the policy they want sort of happens automatically. all the tax cuts including the tax cuts for the wealthy expire on january 1. so that is sort of a short term advantage. these programs, medicare, social security are incredibly popular. cutting them is unpopular. republicans' basic agenda is to cut them. some want to cut them or reform them for totally good reasons that costs are rising over time and as the population ages they take up more and more of the economy and more government spending. they are at a strategic disadvantage which is they want to cut programs that are incredib incredibly popular. anytime you are set against the consensus of public opinion it is a difficult course. you have to acknowledge that reality. as long as obama and democrats have that they will
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 2:00pm PST
. just seven hours now until the nation goes over the fiscal cliff. and after weeks of negotiations and public posturing, democrats and republicans have reached an agreement on tax rates in their negotiations. let me tell you what we know at this hour. the deal is said to raise $600 billion in revenue over the next decade through a series of tax increases on the wealthiest americans. th bush era tax rates would be text ended for all single americans with incomes below $400,000 and couples with income below 45000$450,000. all income above that would be tacked at 39 pittsburgh.6%. the deal is said to include a permanent fix for the alternative minimum tax and it extends unemployment insurance for another year for 2 million americans. this was huge for the democrats. speaking at the white house in front of a group of middle class americans just a few hours ago, the president urged congress to act immediately. >> for now our most immediate priority is to stop taxes going up for middle class families starting tomorrow. i think that is a modest goal that we can accomplish. democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done, but the
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 8:00am PST
increased since the election and also increased in how people view his handling of the fiscal cliff, while attitudes towards republicans are consistently bad and the blame and disapproval is only growing for them. it's costing them in the polls and at the polls this crisis of leadership, this consistent blocking that every obama has tried to do. it's really over a tax increase, and for what? it's really to stop primary challenges. that's what this is all about. i mean, it's really bringing the country to a standstill for their own political short term. >> "new york times" is talking about the urgency issue in all of this, and lacking urgency that we have witnessed. they say, yeah, with days left before the fiscal punch lands, both sides are exhibiting little sense of urgency. rather than to foster progress. perry is that the biggest thing, the primaries moving out of this and how everything looks back? >> i think there are two things going on. the first is democrats generally feel they won a man dade. they're not backing down -- the second thing is the primary issue. you have members of congress say last week there was a p
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 1:00am PST
agree on. if we can get that done, that takes a big bite out of the fiscal cliff. it avoids the worst outcomes. and we're then going to have some tough negotiations in terms of how we continue to reduce the deficit, grow the economy and create jobs. >> if the fight comes back -- i want to ask you specifically about entitlements, medicare and social security, are you prepared in the first year of your second term, to significantly reform those two programs, to go beyond the cuts you've suggested to benefits in medicare, which your own debt commission suggested you'd have to do if you were really going to shore up medicare at least. are you prepared to do that in your first year of the second term? >> what i've said is i'm prepared to do everything i can to make sure that medicare and social security are there not just for this generation but for future generations. >> you've got to talk tough to seniors. >> i have, one of the proposals we've made is something called chain cpi. which sounds technical, but basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is calculated for social s
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 11:00pm PST
incentive for republicans to cooperate on immigration. >> the sad thing for fiscal cliff is we'll be stuck in trench warfare for another couple of years. make sure you do it with a bush type comprehensive package. then you break the trench warfare. you get some from column a and column b, and then maybe you can do the things you want to do. the second big issue, the same thing for a coalition is tax reform. >> but the question tom raises when we're talking about guns, there's a larger approach. does he have more of an opportunity on gun control if there's a big mental health aspect to it, if there's more to it, tom? >> well, that's what i think. i think it has to be holistic. i'm not an assault weapon fan of any kind, but i know people who go out to the target ranges and feel strongly that they have a second amendment right to fire them off as many times as they want to with 30-round magazines in them. so sportsmen, people who have weapons for hunting deer or big game or birds as i do and other people, have to become part of this debate as well, and say, look, there have got to be li
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Jan 1, 2013 5:00am PST
means a new day for possible bipartisanship. we've been building up to this fiscal cliff and the deal finally came together late on new year's eve, and it took the vice president coming here to make the final sale to fellow democrats. biden had been negotiating with the top republican in the senate, and they've come together on a deal that keeps most people's taxes right where they have been, but it does set higher taxes for couples who will earn more than $450,000 a year. it will also put off for two months the across-the-board spending cuts that would have affected the military and most federal agencies. now, that will have an impact. it means that there will be future negotiations and likely future fights about how to deal with paying for a way to bring down the deficit by other kinds of cuts. that's been at the heart of this fight. now, today the house of representatives comes in, they cast a vote, and because the senate vote is so overwhelmingly bipartisan, 89-8, it's hoped that that will have influence in the house to at least get this deal done now with a chance to talk about some of these issues some more in the new congress and in the months ahead. chris? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. well, all eyes do now turn to the republican-controlled house and speaker
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Dec 31, 2012 4:00pm PST
capitol hill are reportedly close to a deal aimed at at least portions of the fiscal cliff on overting tax hikes on middle income americas. they're still vague about delaying across-the-board spending cuts known as the sequester. stay with msnbc for more updates. now back to "hardball." >> let's dig into the turning points of general election. first up, the video that turned out to be the low point for the romney campaign. the candidates taped campaigns that half the americans are lazy. it's known as the 47% video. let's listen again. >> . >> never trust the caterers. anyway, republican national chairman committee man. i say that because i could not have been somebody who paid 1 $10,000 to go 234 there and then hurt the guy. >>> if u you're right about this election, it's the numbers. first of all, they occupy people. 1 pnt. all of the sudden, 1% became the thing to talk about. and then the 47% being anybody who's on any kind of government benefit program. whether it's disability or retirement or military or pension. everything was panted as bad. where did he get that number? >> well,
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Dec 27, 2012 11:00am PST
with barely 100 hours until the fiscal cliff deadline. two sides made it very clear. john boehner couldn't pass with house republicans the idea of raising taxes only on those making more than a million dollars. the president has insisted throughout that $250,000 had been his limit. it's bumped up to $400,000. but even when they were within just a couple hundred billion dollars, which seems like a lot to you and me but it is not a lot in the language of washington, then they went opposite directions an enwhere the political particular sis stands at this moment. >> all right. peter and alexander, thank you good sir. joining me now karen bass of california. congresswoman, good to see you and nice to see you there from the capitol. you are still in california because house members, again, haven't been called back and given the 48-hour notice to my knowledge. have you? >> exactly. i have flights scheduled every day waiting for that notice to come. i think it is a shame. i think the house should be back in business in d.c. right now. the senate's in session. there's no reason for us to be at home. >> i want play another one of
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Dec 27, 2012 6:00am PST
collectively can avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate. >> the classic ping pong gridlock and no way out. >> it's important to know how far we have come in the last seven days. a week ago we were closer than we had seen before on a particular deal. john boehner made a big concession allowing tax cuts to rise on income over a million dollars. president obama countered with a big concession and saying that that should be $400,000 and have fixes to social security on costs of living adjustments on that. what ended up happening? john boehner retreated their plan b that mike viquiera was talking about that was unable to pass and now we are in the stalemate we are in now. we were closer than before. >> you touch on a good point. that's lost now in the media. we are going-over the cliff. last week they are $450 billion away from a deal. that's less than 1% of the federal spending over the next decade. in d.c. terms, 400 billion seems like a lot. that's a drop in the bucket in d.c. terms. it's amazing that small of a number killed a deal. >> if y
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Dec 26, 2012 10:00am PST
representatives the 48-hour notice to return to work, another sign of inaction on the fiscal cliff front. joining me now for our daily fix, mr. jonathan capehart, msnbc contributor and "washington post" editorial writer. jonathan, we're just six days away, no indication from house republicans that they are going to come back any time soon. the leadership has gone mum on that. we know there's not been communication between boehner and mcconnell, obama and boehner. are you amazed with this short amount of time to go there seems to be no sense of urgency on either side? >> am i amazed, given what we went through with the debt ceiling, no, i'm not amazed. i think there are forces here in this town that would like for us, sure people would like for there to be a deal, but going over the cliff on january 1st when there's this notion where it's not really a cliff, it's a slope, it's a curb depending who you talk to, that you can repair the damage if you get a deal done, you know, a few days after january 3rd. i think people feel like they can slow walk. as we saw last week when plan b failed, you know, speaker boehner said it's up to the white house and the democrats to come up with a deal. >> washing my hands with it. what's interesting is what you just touched on, conventional wisdo
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Dec 29, 2012 11:00am PST
republicans are willing to take to avert the fiscal cliff. there's their 400,000. so everyone who makes $400,000 their taxes would stay the same. would that be acceptable. if there is no deal to be reached we do know that harry reid will try to move forward on monday with the bill for those making $250,000 or below. so that's what we need to see how it will work there. there are types of sweeteners they can do. mitch mcconnell is a tough place and this is the underreported part of the story. he has to figure out a deal that gets through the senate and doesn't make john boehner look too bad in the house and there are a lot of conservatives in the house that don't want to do any type of deal that would raise taxes on anybody even though they'll go up on the entire country the first tax hike in 20 years after monday night. >> and one would also assume that mitch mcconnell would have to back a grant, he could face a primary fight if this thing -- >> you touched on one of the great sub plots of these entire negotiations is personal things that boehner and mcconnell have in these negotiations
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Dec 28, 2012 3:00pm PST
people, at their kitchen tables, understand not only what this fiscal cliff is. but i think part of what the representative is telling us here, we have to be really clear about is what republicans would like to do is hold the country's long term hostage on the short term. and it's critical the democrats, no matter how important it is to get a deal done, don't get the wrong deal done. they've goth to make sure that a fair deal happens. >> thank you, i'm going to let you guys keep going on this because i really want to help bring this home. congressman and thank you, melissa harris perry, thank you both for your time this evening. and happy new year to both of you. but don't forget to tune in to melissa harry-perry saturdays and sundays at the 10:00 a.m. hour, here, eastern time on msnbc. coming up, more on the president's comments on the fiscal cliff negotiations and politics over people. republicans bring the country to the brink again. and millions of unemployed americans are nervously waiting. and what a year it's been. the votes are in. we have the "politics nation" picture of the year coming up. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year
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Dec 27, 2012 10:00am PST
. [ humming ] >>> with the country teetering on the edge of the fiscal cliff, many members of the house aren't even in washington. they're waiting on a call from john boehner to proceed to action. the house leadership is calling on the republican leadership to come to work and stop stonewalling every effort to get the job done, including that taxes are not raced on tens of millions of middle class families. the house does come babb, it's an open question as to whether or not john boehner has the power to muster up the votes. with me now, jonathan allen, senior washington correspondent for politoco. he recently wrote about the pushback congressman boehner is getting from those that had their committee assignments stripped. >> hello. i'm doing well. >> we just heard over the break that harry reid is denying this scott brown tweet and the president is moving forward on a new plan. the gop says there's a new plan moving forward on the fiscal cliff. harry reid says there's not. seems to me more of the same ping-pong we've had over the last few days. >> were no closer to steering away from the cliff. we are much closer to the cliff. the president made a round of calls last night to talk to congressional leaders about the need to get something
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Dec 26, 2012 7:00am PST
talk about the quote/unquote fiscal cliff and the republican haves the boehner rule to ask for a dollar in cut for every dollar the limit is extended. the debt limit being money that we have paid and obligation to pay. and so, if democrats and republicans aren't come together now, and a month and a half from now republicans come back to the table and say we need more cuts, i don't know what the president is going to look to to cut. seems like a complicated mess that they have on their hands and the more clarity they get now, the easier it's going to be in a few weeks from now. if they get a small deal that leaves no path forward on the bigger issues i think that we'll be here in a month and a half talking about the same things. >> thank you so much, meredith and david. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> a huge winter storm packed with snow and sleet out of the midwest and heading towards the eastern seaboard. blizzard warnings from arkansas to illinois. wintry mix is expected in the northeast. it's the same storm system that sparked a tornado outbreak in the south yesterday. these p
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Dec 27, 2012 1:00pm PST
. keep doing. go long. . >>> while republicans and democrats angle over the fiscal cliff there's another storm going on within the gop involving the tea party and guns. one tea party group held a machine gun social, another a great gun giveaway and dick armey may have used guns to influence his fellow tea partiers. according to "the washington post" mr. armey recently marched into the office of freedom works. he was accompanied by his wife and also a man identified as a former capitol hill police officer who was volunteering his services as a security guard to mr. armey. now, the fact that this security guard was carrying a gun on his waist is a key detail because mr. armey's mission was so force his enemies in freedom works out of the organization. he was carrying out a purge, and the man with the gun actually escorted two of the targets of that purge out of the freedomworks building. so is this what the tea party has come to, an armed coup? hogan, with an intro like that, you know i got to start with you, my friend. >> of course. >> there's a lot of discord within your party be
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Dec 26, 2012 10:00pm PST
. >> there's something fascinating to all of this. ben bernanke gave this situation the name fiscal cliff which sounds very dramatic and very scary. but what it is is an act of congress that they actually voted for. 174 republicans voted for this law that would then take effect on january 1st with all these spending cuts in it, and democrats -- 95 democrats in the house voted for it, 74 votes for it in the united states senate, and now congress is afraid of actually going through something that it voted for to occur on january 1st because it all feels too dramatic to them. and so there's something very peculiar. the crisis that congress is facing is can they undo something that they voted for, and can they undo it by new year's eve? >> it's irony and paradox upon irony. remember the reason the fiscal cliff is supposed to be so dangerous and the reason why so many people in washington are worried about the fiscal cliff is it's too much deficit reduction too fast. so all of this takes place against a debate about how to reduce the budget deficit. that's why you get into this theater of the absurd. >> well, and look at the tape you showed at the opening of the program with keith boykin over and over again showing the dys
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Dec 31, 2012 12:00pm PST
fiscal cliff, an especially bad year for republicans, not only losing the presidency by four points and lost winnable senate seats. they got slaughtered with latinos, problems with young people, women. the democrats, they obviously did not win back the house. the senate looks like will be tough in 2014. looking at the fiscal cliff on the democrat side, it is very important that the president convince people that he's serious about the deficit in 2013 and for republicans one of my resolutions is that they try to not be the party of the rich any longer. both party haves a perception problem. the exit polls bared that out. the election bared that out and passing the fiscal cliff and looks like we will have kind of another temporary crisis in the next month or three months, they again have to fight the stereotypes and label that is built up. >> one of those jumped out at me. maybe run it by you. for the democrats, the argument of don't offend gun owners and manners, you don't want to offend anybody needlessly, a voter or group. i get that. you point to the example of the 2000 election a
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Dec 26, 2012 8:00am PST
lot of things and trying to avert the fiscal cliff, no plans announced for him to return to washington. the house of representatives, their public stand, the republican leadership at any rate is that it is up to the senate to act. and the president before he left for hawaii last friday pointed out that there is a senate bill. he said he'll try to get a smaller bill and does what he said all along and raise tax rates on those couples filing jointly making more than $250,000 a year and extending unemployment benefits, something that is very important to a lot of americans who have been out of work for a very long time. one problem there, thomas. the very same bill or very near identical bill passed the senate last summer and languishing in the house of representatives. the threshold question has been and remains will the house of representatives stroet do something that a majority of republicans would go against? highly unlikely, thomas, and more and more likely to head over the cliff. for a few days, at least. >> going over the 2012 mike-isms and according to my list, you have given the date of january 11th as the date that we should be looking for, right? >> re
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Dec 29, 2012 12:00am PST
effort, then there is no way that we can make that fiscal cliff deadline. it's going to require the republican leadership to be willing to have a traditional up or down vote on the majority leader's legislation. >> well, for a man who's filibustered his own legislation, that's a tall order, to be sure. >> it is, but it happens in the context of all of us looking at what kind of filibuster reform there should be. >> right. >> and if republicans want to show the american people that at that juncture, with everybody watching and so much at stake, they're going to force a fiscal cliff breaking filibuster, i think that's going to have effects that they're going to be very concerned about down the road. so we have kind of a filibuster window here, if the minority leader, if the republican leader will let us proceed that way. >> well, from your mouth to your 99 colleagues' ears, to be sure. >> yeah. >> let's take a listen at your leader, your senate majority leader reid after the meeting. >> i hope everything's a good sign. i've had my confidence destroyed on other occasions, so i hope it's not on this occasion
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Dec 29, 2012 12:00pm PST
countdown clock at the bottom of your screen runs out. so where do fiscal cliff talks stand at this critical hour? nbc's kristen welker is on the north lawn and luke russert are both following developments this saturday afternoon. kristen, i'll start with you. any indication at this particular point as to what's happening behind closed doors this afternoon? >> reporter: well, i think most of the action is going on in the hill where staffers with majority leader reid and minority leader mcconnell are trying to conjure up some last-minute deal and this plan would not be the grand bargain that john boehner started initially working on. that plan would have dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction and this will be a much more scaled back version that will deal with the issue of taxes and that is still the big sticking point, taxes. of course, democrats and president obama have called for tax rates to increase on those making $250,000 or less. republicans have said that's way too low. so they're thinking about potentially compromising on a rate that would be $400,000 or $500,000, but
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